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The Real Sisters of EVE: The Women of New Eden

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Jade Avalon

Jade is the CEO of Six Apart, a small corporation she started midway through 2012. She has been in EVE Online since 2009 with intermittent breaks from EVE.


Mino Noud
: What made you start playing EVE in the first place?
Jade Avalon: Well it was an advert I saw on a website, I was mostly a Playstation player and I’d just started a Myspace page and saw the advert on there. I’m really into Sci-fi so I wanted to give the game a shot. To be honest, I can’t remember when I started playing.

Mino Noud: Had you ever played an MMO before?
Jade Avalon: No, this was my first MMO.

Mino Noud: How do you feel being a woman in what is essentially a very male dominated game?
Jade Avalon: Well it gets lonely at times and a bit annoying most of the people on this game find out I’m a girl and needless to say things get weird. Only a few know I’m female.  I play the guy card but overall I don’t mind it mostly because I don’t talk to many people.

Mino Noud: Is there anything you would change about the game to make it more suitable for women or at least less biassed?
Jade Avalon: Nothing that comes to mind.

Mino Noud: Have you had any moments when being a woman has caused a problem in the game?
Jade Avalon: Well I had a stalker. This guy was very crazy; he had many alts which made reporting him hard. He is the reason I quit about six mouths ago I just recently came back to the game I even thought about starting a new toon and just deleting this one to get rid of him.

Mino Noud: Do you feel CCP handled it appropriately?
Jade Avalon: I feel they did what they could do, he had more than three alts so I guess he had different accounts.

Mino Noud: What keeps you playing EVE?
Jade Avalon: Pretty ships, my friends and the music. Most of my time is spent sitting in stations just chatting with people.


Niffer Mac

Niffer Mac

Niffer Mac is the CEO of Roving Guns Inc., one of the original members of RAZOR Alliance. Roving Guns Inc. was the first corporation that Niffer joined, ascending the ranks to eventually become CEO. An integral part of the alliance she has grown it to 218 members at last count with very high activity.

Mino Noud: What made you start playing EVE in the first place?

Niffer Mac: My brother, who has played since beta, got me into Eve after two years of nagging and sending invites every couple of months. I was between games and finally caved and gave it a try and was hooked instantly. This was a bit of a shock as I didn’t think I would be into playing spaceship games. I use to play fps with RL friends previously. Joined up with my current corp Roving Guns, a member of Razor Alliance, after the two-week trial and am still here after 6 ½ years later. I worked my way up the ladder from a two-week old noob pvping in a kestral to CEO of RG and am now part of the Troika leadership of RZR.

Mino Noud: Had you ever played an MMO before?
Niffer Mac: Never this is my first and only.

Mino Noud: How do you feel being a woman in what is essentially a very male dominated game?
Niffer Mac: I sound different and am probably a better dancer, other than that my gender doesn’t come into it. I haven’t been treated any different than a male member in RZR. Got called a retard several times, same as half the alliance back in the day. My corp and alliance mates may be a teeny bit more protective of me than a male member but just a smidgen. Has my sex helped me in this game? Quite possibly — I’m viewed as trustworthy due to the fact I am a woman. Have I gotten lots of free stuff? No more than any other player that has played any length of time in EVE regardless of gender. Ultimately this a universe dominated by males that play female characters. Who is to know in reality who is male and who is female?

Mino Noud: Is there anything you would change about the game to make it more suitable for women or at least less biassed?
Niffer Mac: Not really. It takes a certain type of person to play and stick with EVE irrelevant of whether they are male or female. It is like marmite. You either love it or hate it. EVE is not for the faint-hearted, nor is it fast paced and action packed. No instant gratification here. It’s a harsh, cruel, manipulative, boring, frustrating universe, full of spread sheets — urgh! But Eve is also so much fun; adrenaline charged and satisfying when everything comes together and you get that epic fight and win. If you changed it dramatically to suit other people it would, unfortunately, change the fabric of the game that makes so many of us still log in to play.

Mino Noud: Have you ever had a moment where being a woman playing EVE had caused a problem?
Niffer Mac: It’s the opposite. Leadership gets complaints all the time from members about me hitting on them ;) (haha), but in all seriousness, I have never had any issues playing eveEVE. Once they get over the initial “OMG, it’s a girl” stage it’s back to business as usual. I have heard about problems other women have encountered but never incurred any myself possibly due to the people I play with and the manner I come across. We have another successful woman player in razor who was in Troika and is CEO of Razor exec. Corp. She has had no out of the ordinary problems either.

Mino Noud: What keeps you in EVE Online?
Niffer Mac: I’ve discovered some wonderful people during my time in EVE and forged many long-standing friendships, meeting up with alliance mates in RL at a few gatherings. Further cementing the RL community bond of the alliance. ‘They ‘are what keeps me playing. Plus still waiting on that elusive massive — totally awesome — epic super cap brawl.


Raina Narcissus

Raina Narcissus

Raina Narcissus is a member of The Abdication Corporation. A corporation in ‘Why So Serious’ alliance. She has been an EVE player since the beginning of 2012. Quite a fan of being tackle and cackling on comms when killing people she’s an up and coming player in Why So Serious and the world of null.

Mino Noud:
What made you start playing EVE in the first place?
Raina Narcissus: It’s predictable: My boyfriend was playing, and I was watching, then I wanted to play. So I did. And I am still. Simple as that.

Mino Noud: Had you ever played an MMO before?
Raina Narcissus: Not before Eve. I got into a free to play hack ‘n’ slash a while back, but I lost interest. I’m more into RPG’s and FPS’s than MMO’s. EVE is the only thing that I keep up with, between work, and cooking. (Yup, I went there.)

Mino Noud: How do you feel being a woman in what is essentially a very male dominated game?
Raina Narcissus: I love it. I love when I talk and then there’s silence for about 30 seconds. And when the guys think that they’ll offend then I say something that’s about ten times worse. There are a few other females in our alliance, so the guys are more used to it now than they were.

Mino Noud: Is there anything you would change about the game to make it more suitable for women or at least less biassed?
Raina Narcissus: Can’t think of anything. I love EVE as it is. Maybe a few more rainbows, butterflies, unicorn. Bubbles? No, fuck bubbles. Fucking bubble. Though, I like EVE as it is. Some of the updates were aggravating and difficult to get used to, but I’m still here.

Mino Noud: Have you ever had a moment where being a woman playing EVE had caused a problem?
Raina Narcissus: Titty Tuesday and Thong Thursday. I started it with a corp mate. It was just a small contest of the best titty and thong photos. It was all in good fun and a small 50 million ISK prize to the winner. Being a girl, I have high standards for other women, especially when it comes to their… assets. The rest of the alliance didn’t really appreciate my taste in women. So, long story short, Titty Tuesday and Thong Thursday were cancelled due to petty bullshit.

Mino Noud: What keeps you in the game?
Raina Narcissus: Quafe and Exotic Dancers! EVE is just something that has kept my interest since the first day I saw it. I always thought that it seemed awesome to play. I liked the PVP aspect and the economy especially. It was really intriguing. I love that I can go out on a frig roam, joke around, and scare the shit out of people in a bunch of frigates. It’s great. The only thing that I would say I don’t like is that EVE has a certain control over, like an addiction. It’s not a bad thing but I don’t need EVE to mesh with my other addictions, like alcohol, caffeine, and sex. What am I saying? We’re all drunk when we play EVE. Well, the fun ones are drunk when they play, at least.


The women interviewed are only a small number of those that play EVE. There may be some that play in your corporation or alliance and some that you could buy things from in EVE. It is always interesting when you hear a woman’s voice on comms, but it’s merely because most men don’t expect women to play EVE. When someone answers to the affirms that they are a ‘girl’ as opposed to a (G)uy(I)n(R)eal(L)ife there are many hoots of derision; not because they think they shouldn’t play, but just because of the cynical nature of the average EVE player. I hope that more women join EVE, shoot at people with us and allow us to shoot them because it makes the game more interesting, inclusive and bloody good fun for everyone.

This post was originally posted on EN24 on Dec 28th 2012 4:06PM by myself.

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PR degree graduate looking for work in media who happens to write, broadcast on the radio, and has a penchant for memes. Writing is a passion and something I have done semi-professional for many years, writing at times for a well known gaming online publication focusing on EVE Online. Quite possibly a nerd.

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